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The Viral Vent

Heres the new Vent. I transferred a few of the old comments here.

Published Thursday, April 16 2009 at 3:41pm by admin in General

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Ellen Novak - Sunday, February 22 2009 at 4:37pm

I beleive term limits locally are needed drastically. Personally I witnessed the Delphi Technique being used on the public in Ord, NE on many occasions. What is the Delphi Technique and why should you be concerned? Read the following then ask yourself if these are the types of leaders we want in our community. It makes me sick!

Using the Delphi Technique to Achieve Consensus
How it is leading us away from representative government to an illusion of citizen participation

The Delphi Technique and consensus building are both founded in the same principle - the Hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, with synthesis becoming the new thesis. The goal is a continual evolution to "oneness of mind" (consensus means solidarity of belief) -the collective mind, the wholistic society, the wholistic earth, etc. In thesis and antithesis, opinions or views are presented on a subject to establish views and opposing views. In synthesis, opposites are brought together to form the new thesis. All participants in the process are then to accept ownership of the new thesis and support it, changing their views to align with the new thesis. Through a continual process of evolution, "oneness of mind" will supposedly occur.
In group settings, the Delphi Technique is an unethical method of achieving consensus on controversial topics. It requires well-trained professionals, known as "facilitators" or "change agents," who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against another to make a preordained viewpoint appear "sensible," while making opposing views appear ridiculous.

In her book Educating for the New World Order, author and educator Beverly Eakman makes numerous references to the need of those in power to preserve the illusion that there is "community participation in decision-making processes, while in fact lay citizens are being squeezed out."

The setting or type of group is immaterial for the success of the technique. The point is that, when people are in groups that tend to share a particular knowledge base, they display certain identifiable characteristics, known as group dynamics, which allows the facilitator to apply the basic strategy.

The facilitators or change agents encourage each person in a group to express concerns about the programs, projects, or policies in question. They listen attentively, elicit input from group members, form "task forces," urge participants to make lists, and in going through these motions, learn about each member of a group. They are trained to identify the "leaders," the "loud mouths," the "weak or non-committal members," and those who are apt to change sides frequently during an argument.

Suddenly, the amiable facilitators become professional agitators and "devil's advocates." Using the "divide and conquer" principle, they manipulate one opinion against another, making those who are out of step appear "ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic." They attempt to anger certain participants, thereby accelerating tensions. The facilitators are well trained in psychological manipulation. They are able to predict the reactions of each member in a group. Individuals in opposition to the desired policy or program will be shut out.

The Delphi Technique works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and community groups. The "targets" rarely, if ever, realize that they are being manipulated. If they do suspect what is happening, they do not know how to end the process. The facilitator seeks to polarize the group in order to become an accepted member of the group and of the process. The desired idea is then placed on the table and individual opinions are sought during discussion. Soon, associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and they pressure the entire group to accept their proposition.


How the Delphi Technique Works

Consistent use of this technique to control public participation in our political system is causing alarm among people who cherish the form of government established by our Founding Fathers. Efforts in education and other areas have brought the emerging picture into focus.

In the not-too-distant past, the city of Spokane, in Washington state, hired a consultant to the tune of $47,000 to facilitate the direction of city government. This development brought a hue and cry from the local population. The ensuing course of action holds an eerie similarity to what is happening in education reform. A newspaper editorial described how groups of disenfranchised citizens were brought together to "discuss" what they felt needed to be changed at the local government level. A compilation of the outcomes of those "discussions" influenced the writing of the city/county charter.

That sounds innocuous. But what actually happened in Spokane is happening in communities and school districts all across the country. Let's review the process that occurs in these meetings.

First, a facilitator is hired. While his job is supposedly neutral and non-judgmental, the opposite is actually true. The facilitator is there to direct the meeting to a preset conclusion.

The facilitator begins by working the crowd to establish a good-guy-bad-guy scenario. Anyone disagreeing with the facilitator must be made to appear as the bad guy, with the facilitator appearing as the good guy. To accomplish this, the facilitator seeks out those who disagree and makes them look foolish, inept, or aggressive, which sends a clear message to the rest of the audience that, if they don't want the same treatment, they must keep quiet. When the opposition has been identified and alienated, the facilitator becomes the good guy - a friend - and the agenda and direction of the meeting are established without the audience ever realizing what has happened.

Next, the attendees are broken up into smaller groups of seven or eight people. Each group has its own facilitator. The group facilitators steer participants to discuss preset issues, employing the same tactics as the lead facilitator.


Participants are encouraged to put their ideas and disagreements on paper, with the results to be compiled later. Who does the compiling? If you ask participants, you typically hear: "Those running the meeting compiled the results." Oh-h! The next question is: "How do you know that what you wrote on your sheet of paper was incorporated into the final outcome?" The typical answer is: "Well, I've wondered about that, because what I wrote doesn't seem to be reflected. I guess my views were in the minority."

That is the crux of the situation. If 50 people write down their ideas individually, to be compiled later into a final outcome, no one knows what anyone else has written. That the final outcome of such a meeting reflects anyone's input at all is highly questionable, and the same holds true when the facilitator records the group's comments on paper. But participants in these types of meetings usually don't question the process.

Why hold such meetings at all if the outcomes are already established? The answer is because it is imperative for the acceptance of the School-to-Work agenda, or the environmental agenda, or whatever the agenda, that ordinary people assume ownership of the preset outcomes. If people believe an idea is theirs, they'll support it. If they believe an idea is being forced on them, they'll resist.

The Delphi Technique is being used very effectively to change our government from a representative form in which elected individuals represent the people, to a "participatory democracy" in which citizens selected at large are facilitated into ownership of preset outcomes. These citizens believe that their input is important to the result, whereas the reality is that the outcome was already established by people not apparent to the participants.

Tell me, does this sound familiar to you? The time has come that this unethical behavior be stopped! Count me in on any petition to get term limits in our county and I will work for you also! I also beleive they should apply to some appointed postitions by the boards. Can we petition for that also?
Ellen J Novak,

Ellen Novak - Sunday, February 22 2009 at 4:53pm

Sorry about the spelling and grammar. It is a struggle for me to keep calm since I have been a target of the fine people running these meetings, by their hired facilitators and my sons have been targets of board member's families, teacher's children and some adults in our community. I need to slow down, breath, check my spelling and reread my posts!

Lawman - Monday, February 23 2009 at 9:45am

Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww down, Ellen!!!

dh3345 - Monday, February 23 2009 at 10:57am

Ellen I hear your pain. It is very painful when the maffia gets the notion to go after you. And yes especially painful when they don't want you to say what you are saying so they go after your kids. Just more of the same old stuff that goes on here in good old Ord! And no, Huskerfan, this is not something that can just be forgotten about because it never stops. This is just more of the same old evil rotten ways of the powers that be led by the most rotten apple of them all, boss hog. Watch out because you never know when they will come after you.

admin - Monday, February 23 2009 at 11:13am

Ellen left a comment prior to #152 that gives the basics on a program that is used to get "consensus" from a group. We will be posting the entire thing on the front page as it is too long for the vent. Should be up this afternoon sometime.

Also, keep your eyes out for the grand opening and a new look at Ord Talk the first part of March! Should be easier to use and better looking too! Admin out.

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dim - Wednesday, February 25 2009 at 3:06pm

it appears husker fan has imagined a scenario where Eco - De Do-flops printed a statement of 80 some new businesses created, and that since assembling this data, the exact details of this data were lost, and that the new Eco - De Czar, to answer the questions floating on Ordtalk, would have to spend countless hours away from his family re assembling and re creating the information from past years, and that the Eco - De Czar is entirely too busy to gather this information.

This scenario is fanciful.

The facts are:
Eco - De claims 80 some new businesses, and printed such in the Quiz insert in April 2008
The Eco - De czar has ignored repeated challenges to verify this statement
The Eco - De claims of April 2008 are unsubstantiated

It appears the Eco - De czar is unable to rise to the support of his Eco - De predecessors, and is unwilling to confront the stigmata of corruption now etched into the Eco - De edifice.

An even more fanciful scenario continues with husker fan and others on Ord Talk, who believe that the idea, the existence of Eco - De is synonymous with progress and mandatory for the everlasting gobstopper of government grants, and that somehow Eco - De is separate, insulated, and untainted from the cloud of corruption hovering over the county.

On the contrary, Eco - De is synonymous with taxpayer money (that’s your money, reader) for salaries, taxpayer money for web sites, and tax payer money divvied out to a hand picked select.

There is no need to work with Eco - De, to give Eco - De time to demonstrate how they can spend more taxpayer money. Eco - De has their hand in your back pocket. Meanwhile, the Neville Chamberlains of Ord Talk continue to solemnize that me must work with the status quo and have ‘peace in our time’ (tell me, before the pick, does the pick pocket appear sincere or insincere?)

olderthendirt - Wednesday, February 25 2009 at 7:40pm

Hello everyone,
I am a newcomer to your blog. I have had the adventure of living in Valley County/Ord area for a number of years now. I find all the comments (I started in the January 2009 archives) very interesting.

My experience with small towns in Nebraska (2) seems similar. There is always a town boss or bully, whatever the occasion. There is certainly a ruling class and then the servants of the boss and the ruling class.

Ord seems to have its own unique structure with a few similarities to most small towns. Quite often this structure remains in place until the boss expires or moves on. Then another set of bosses will take its place.

Now, when I going about town I will be looking at people and wondering which one is Boss Hog. . . kind of like a whodunit mystery novel.

roberta538 - Thursday, February 26 2009 at 1:36am

Just read Ellen's comments on how the maffia is using a certain program with a real name attached to it to get what they want. Isn't it a slap in the face to know that they use our money (tax dollars) to buy professionals from out of town (good economic development for the area no doubt) to hire paid guns to come in and dupe much of the public. Not only that, but they use our money (again tax dollars) to buy advertising in their puppet news media sources like the local radio and quiz to again dupe the public with their "spin". This assures them that those media sources will not print any other views except the ones they want presented because the cavemen have no money to buy all those ads. And they have done such a good job on the young people (the 20's and 30's ages group) using those very techniques that those young people believe they are doing the right thing. I was at one of those meetings Ellen referred to, that was led by one of those paid professionals, and it was alarming to hear one 29 year old say out loud that the elected Ord County Commissioners and Hospital Board Members were not supposed to do as their constituents wanted but rather to do what they knew was best for the community. So there you go, the representative way of government that our country was founded on has been successfully undercut by the maffia using our money to pay for it! And just as Ellen described, they have been successfully taught to believe that we (the so called cave people as dubbed by the maffia) are so stupid and are so behind the times and uneducated that they must take matters into their own hands and vote "for the good of the community" not for the people they represent. It is not only wrong it is scary. Thanks for providing that information Ellen!

roberta538 - Friday, February 27 2009 at 1:44pm

Welcome Olderthendirt! Yes every little town has the bully and underlings but the thing that separates Ord's from all the rest is the depth of evil of the power brokers. I have never known any other small town place to be subject to such horrible vindictive and ruthless thinking and behaviors. They don't just want to be in control they want to be king. And anyone that steps in the way better watch out because they will destroy you if they can. They are also the only ones in small townville that goes all out to use public money for their own self gain and use of public money to hire professional mind binders.

olderthendirt - Tuesday, March 3 2009 at 7:00pm

Hi roberta538,
Very well spoken.
Well, I must inform the power brokers there is only one King of Kings and they are not Him and He does not have any fear of evil or evil doers.

There are still a few courageous people willing to do what has to be done to bring truth to others. Ellen, thank you for all the hard work in keeping on with the truth. Keep marching on!

Lawman - Tuesday, March 3 2009 at 9:32pm

Just came up with a plan for the ED. Due to all the turmoil in Mexico, they are warning the spring breakers not to go there. Why not invite them to Ord, and let them celebrate here. Look at the money that could be made. Wouldn't have to worry about all the businesses then. Just build more bars. They could use Aubles pond to surf in. Ready made for them....

Ordian007 - Tuesday, March 3 2009 at 10:13pm

Roberta538 in post #105 - "Did you know that there have been evangalists that have come to Ord and at the outskirts of town had their breath taken away by the “heavy dark presence” surrounding this community? Very sad!"

I think that would discourage the "Spring Breakers" - we all know they create (smoke) clouds of their own! :) But, they wouldn't have to worry about the evangalists, since they don't seem to be able to breathe in our town!

LOL Lawman!!

dim - Wednesday, March 4 2009 at 9:15am

Our Eco De Czar has launched himself from the springboard that is the Omaha World Herald into the netherworld formerly ruled by the likes of Hans Christian Andersen. Open to today's Independent's opinion section and find out why Eco De will soon find itself in the same company as record stores, video stores, Starbucks, the Hummer, and AIG - victims of World Depression II. Prepare oneself to meet the Music Man on steroids, the Think method applied to Valley county, bearded keyboard Collectivism hammering out Soviet style five year plans, complete with the peasants out the window laboring in the fields. Capture the pure essence that characterized enthusiasm for the Maginot Line on Bastille Day, 1914. Enthrall oneself to finally understand how Kafka would have written if only he had been a civil servant, what the term '1984' would signify today if Orwell had not been denied an entrepreneurial class in High School, what Winston's 'we will fight them on the beaches' speech would have been if only prozac had been invented in 1941.

Ground control to Eco De.....

Munsters - Tuesday, October 27 2009 at 12:20pm

Rock unfortunately the officers can't do anything to these predators who are classified as level 2. They are registered sex offenders but free to live where they choose here in Ord as there is no city ordinance pertaining to sex offenders in our fair town.
As to some people who were banned from this site I have read a lot of horrible things by a lot of the people on here and many of them are still on here. Sorry rock but at times many of them have acted below their age level. So why are the ones who at times were just as guilty, now casting stones?

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